Monday, June 22, 2009

What the census actually tells us

Most White Mages suck, but we kinda already knew that.

Every time you spend merits on Protect or Shell V, god creates a PUP. Or a DRG, either or.

They are bad and you should feel bad.

Thank god no one merits holy circle recast, but whichever DRGs merited ancient circle recast. . . .

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

Uh, what? I can understand mocking Protectra V merits, but Shellra V?

Sodako said...

I did the math for both, they're both useless. No shell V does not give you magic defense bonus, no it is not better than martyr (unless everyone in your party is somehow collectively taking more than 9090 damage every 10 minutes, which doesn't really happen much without wiping you at the same time)

http://sodako.blogspot.com/2008/08/public-service-announcement-white-mage.html

Drac said...

I knew the story of my conception would be disappointing...

Anonymous said...

You're a fucking idiot. You probably fucking tested it with someone who has magic def capped @50%. Go fucking read wiki if you don't believe me. http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Damage_Taken

Get your fucking facts straight. Shellra V caps @27.34%. SO IF A YOU'RE PLD HAS AGEIS + DEFENDING RING IT DOES NOT FUCKING MATTER. Shell IV would be ok for a PLD with ageis+defending. HOWEVER you have others in you're pt plus yourself that could use Shellra V capped because they will not have capped Magic Damage Reduction. No shit that it doesn't give MDB. Because it's not MDB it's magic damage reduction.

Sodako said...

I didn't test it you fucking retard I learned to read and did some basic highschool math

jesus christ are you fucking retarded I didn't say anything about any caps, martyr is better because UNLESS YOU ARE TAKING MORE THAN 9090 MAGIC DAMAGE THROUGHOUT YOUR PARTY OVER 10 MINUTE MARTYR WILL HEAL MORE DAMAGE THAN SHELL V WILL PREVENT

you're one of the morons I write this shit for, so sure of yourself without knowing what the fuck you're talking about

Anonymous said...

HI AOE~ MORE THEN ONE PERSON TO HEAL?
CUREGA YOU SAY???? MORE HATE??? MORE MP??? MARTYR HEALS ONE FUCKING PERSON EVERY 10 MIN GG! 400~500 HEALING OVER 10 MIN IS NOTHING~ ANY MAGIC AOE WILL DO 400~500 (except maybe a WHM or RDM factoring in mnd and MDB) DMG, AT LEAST, FOR ANYTHING HIGH LEVEL W/O ANY TYPE OF SHELL.

SUP! BASIC HIGH SCHOOL MATH G-DAWWWWWGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!
LETS SAY YOU HAVE 3 MELEE AND PLD.

W/O SHELL

-a mob does 400 dmg to all 4
-the mob uses this ability every minute
-Over 10 min that's 16,000 dmg total between to heal

W/ SHELL IV

-Reduces magic dmg 21.9%
-That means 400dmg is turned into 312 dmg PER PERSON
-Over 10min that's 12,496 dmg total

W/ SHELL V 1 MERIT

-Reduces magic dmg 24.2%
-400dmg becomes 303 dmg PER PERSON
-Over 10 min that's 12,128 dmg total

W/ SHELL V 5 MERITS

-Reduces magic dmg 27.34%
-400dmg becomes 290 dmg PER PERSON
-Over 10 min that's 11601 dmg total

SO...
16000-12496= 3504 dmg being reduced with shell IV

16000-12128= 3872 dmg being reduced with shell V 1 merit

16000-11601= 4399 dmg being reduced with shell V 5 merits

4399-3504= 895 dmg difference from Shell IV to Shell V 5 merits

4399-3872= 527 dmg difference from shell V 1 merit to shell V 5 merits


FINAL CONCLUSION...

I'M NOT SAYING MARTYR IS BAD. BUT THE DIFFERENCE FROM SHELL V 5 MERITS IS YOU'RE NOT JUST GIVING IT TO ONE PERSON LIKE MARTYR. THE WHOLE PT IS GETTING REDUCED DMG. THE MATH I DID ABOVE IS ONLY 4 PEOPLE THAT DOES NOT EVEN INCLUDED DMG DONE TO THE OTHER 2 PEOPLE IN A PT. THE DIFFERENCE IS UNREAL AND IT'S FUCKING STUPID TO DO ANYTHING ELSE.

Sodako said...

yes, good job, explain a situation in which shell V is better than martyr in about 500 words more than it took me to, and then don't say anything about how rarely that shit actually comes up.

it would be 'fucking stupid' not to merit shell V if every mob had AoE magic attacks that it used constantly and they were also immune to stun, but oh wait, that almost never happens! and when it does, people set up a stun order!

an argument which pre-supposes conditions that make your argument true is not an argument, let me know when you're interested in dealing with the actual game instead of happy-fun-everything-AoEs-magic-damage-for-a-shitload land

actually beyond that what the fuck are you even bringing up enmity from curagas for, at 75 you're not going to pull hate with that shit even if everyone is getting raped by AoE

Anonymous said...

SOOOO LAST TIME I HEARD YOU COULDNT STUN WINGS ON ANY HNM Wyrm. CANT STUN MOST SALVAGE BOSSES.

LET ME LIST Khimaira's BECAUSE IT HAS SO MANY!

Dreadstorm - AoE Terror and 600+ damage.
Fulmination - 30' AoE Paralyze, Stun and 800+ damage. (Can only be used when HP is 35% and under.)
Thunderstrike - AoE Stun and 600+ damage.

CERB'S, PW, AV, MOST JAILERS/SEA MOBS, KIRIN LAST TIME I KNEW WAS ALSO RESISTANT TO STUN! A LOT OF ZNMS AS WELL!

I HOPE YOU FUCKING KNOW SPELLS ARE NOT THE ONLY TYPE OF MAGIC DMG. YES YOU CAN STUN ~GA BUT MOST JAs THAT HIGH LVL MOBS USE ARE NOT ABLE TO BE STUNNED FAST ENOUGH OR HAVE A RESISTANCE TO STUN. GG PIECE OF SHIT!

Sodako said...

yes because HNMs are the only things in the game. no matter how many examples you can give, the entire rest of the game is one big example going the other way

and while you're at it why don't you throw in some mobs that are regularly chain-stunned, oh wait you already did nevermind

you are like the proto-typical end-game 5 year old, you have to be right no matter what and your concept of reality is limited to what your leader tells you to do

Anonymous said...

Please elaborate which of those you chain-spell stun? ZNM lol? What a waste of a 2h if you chainspell stun that. Salvage is not HNM... Nyzul which has Faf and other HNM in it are regular events for everyday people. I'm not talking JUST the HNM but also including those in that event.

Oh and my leader is..... OH right myself! BECAUSE I'M THE ONE TELLING FUCKTARDS LIKE YOU HOW TO PLAY THE FUCKING GAME PROPERLY =D

Sodako said...

I was afraid someone let a moron like you lead.

why don't you go back to whining about people who aren't doing anything wrong and then defending yourself when someone calls you out on your bullshit by saying "lol j/k" again

nyzul faf does not fucking need shell V you fucktard you don't even need a WHM there.

Anonymous said...

I lol'd